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Initiative - Opera 10.50 for one week

Monday, March 08, 2010 { 51 Comments }

We people are very good in supporting initiate for killing things RIP IE6 but sometimes we fail to give support when something good and cool happens.

Maybe you heard Opera 10.50 is out and is fastest browser in the world.

I’m passionate Firefox user mostly because of various developer plugins and simply because I used to use Firefox.

For me Opera was just test browser for testing my web sites, but often thought that Opera deserves more attention . I was always fascinated by the small Norwegian company that had always good browser but very often bad marketing strategy. Opera was not always free and if they relisted the free version when we had only IE and Netscape, Opera would probably had different market share today.

I want to call up one initiative: Opera 10.50 like your primary browser for one week.

So give Opera a chance. Test it. Use it.

Why to use Opera?

Fastest JavaScript engine - Carakan

CSS3 and HTML5 Support – (For me personally like CSS Framework builder this is most important part)

Opera has invested a lot in full support of CSS and HTML standards . In early days Opera had big issues with compatibility and standard. If I hate some browser more than IE6 it will probably be Opera 7.

But today among Opera staff we have Håkon Wium Lie the father of CSS, Molly Holzschlag , Bruce Lawson , David Storey , Chris Mills and probably many more that I don’t know.

This people are guarantee that Opera will follow the path of Web Standards and HTML5 and CSS3 implementation.

There are many other features that Opera provides, but for me personally is interesting is dragonfly ( It is like firebug for Opera). ). I will try to discover new plugins and addons this week.

I recently discovered Opera Widgets it is something like Adobe AIR but with less RAM consumption.

I also discovered that with Opera you can download torrents, I probably will never trade uTorrent for anything but it’s cool to know that you can actually download torrents with the browser.

Why I’m doing this experiment?

Probably because I want to try to survive one week without Firefox and the second thing I meet two Opera team members last year on one web conference(Molly and David) who ensure me that Opera is going in right direction.

Again. The experiment is use Opera 10.50 for one week like your primary browser. In this week try to find all good and bad stuff about Opera. Than is up to you if you continue with Opera or not.

Are you willing to try this experiment with me?

Update: Opera 10.50 for one week - Summary


51 Responses to “Initiative - Opera 10.50 for one week”

  1. // Anonymous bruce lawson // 3/08/2010

    Wow! I'll be interested to see how your experiment goes. I think you'll love it!  

  2. // Blogger Aleksander // 3/08/2010

    Good luck!  

  3. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/08/2010

    It would've been smarter to have this challenge *after* you fix the critical 0-day bug present in 10.5  

  4. // Blogger hdragomir // 3/08/2010

    Well, I'm already using Opera!

    I'll try to make this a formal thing and post my findings. But I do think I'm sorta biased.  

  5. // Blogger Nom4d3 // 3/08/2010

    I think Firefox just lost one more user ;)  

  6. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/08/2010

    in my opinion opera is the best browser - but be careful at the moment with opera: http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Dangerous-security-hole-in-Opera-948277.html  

  7. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/08/2010

    You will never go back ;-)  

  8. // Anonymous Wes P. // 3/08/2010

    I dropped Firefox a few months ago for Chrome, but decided that I'd give Opera 10.50 a try when it was released. I've been enjoying it so far. There have been a few unfortunate instances where I'm required to fire up Chrome (or something not Opera) because of compatibility issues, primarily in the realm of web base business applications my company uses.

    But other than that, Dragonfly is on par with Firebug, and the Webkit dev tools. Mouse gestures are the kind of thing you'll never want to give up once you get used to them. Page previews on the tab bar are primo.

    Good luck on your experiment. Hope you're satisfied with the outcome. Opera really is a great browser!  

  9. // Blogger Risto // 3/08/2010

    I suggest you try out the mouse gestures. Once you get to know them, there's no way anything else will satisfy you.

    Good luck in your experiment, hope to see some interesting insights about your week.  

  10. // Blogger Pavels Romanovskis (Павел Романовский) // 3/08/2010

    i tried opera, and while I am impressed by the speed of this browser, I went back to firefox, because I did not like opera's zooming behaviour - I cannot have "text only zoom" and couldn't make mouse gestures for zoomin/zoomout work without keyboard (tried rightclick + GestureUp or GestureDown, tried flipforward/backwards - nothing happens). If anybody can tell me how to get it working, please do so.  

  11. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/08/2010

    Try to hold the right mouse button while left click.


    You'll be addicted to this "back button" soon.  

  12. // Blogger Pavels Romanovskis (Павел Романовский) // 3/08/2010

    that's what I do. I used this gesture with firegestures on firefox. does it work for others? Shall I reinstall opera then?  

  13. // Blogger Mikael // 3/08/2010

    Some years ago I was amazed when mozilla's and later firefox's installation package was something like 10 Mb, when opera - with irc-client, mail, widgets and stuff took like 3 Mb.

    Tels me they've dome something well. :-)

    * Happy Opera user since 4.0  

  14. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/08/2010

    Good luck with the experiment. If something bother you, or something is missing: ask somewhere! In Opera there are some nice tricks and has much more possibilities as one may think. You just have to find it out how it works. Opera is an "old" browser, with its own tricks.

    Pavels Romanovskis: There is no zoom gesture by default, but you can make one. Just press Ctrl + F12, choose Advanced tab, and than Shortcuts.

    On the top, there is Mouse setup. Click Edit... Type into the searchbar the gesture you want, like "gestureup" (in this case "up" is enough). Double click on the right part of the command (it should be Stop by default). Now you can type your new command, and a list appears. You have to choose "Zoom in", and add a parameter to it, so finally it would look like "Zoom in,20". That means +20% zoom by each gesture. Of course you can set the number you want. You can confirm your change by clicking Enter.

    Now you can go on with GestureDown to zoom out for example, following the same routine.  

  15. // Blogger Quimby // 3/08/2010

    I need 1Password support in Opera :(

    http://agilewebsolutions.com/products/1Password  

  16. // Anonymous J. King // 3/08/2010

    For me the experiement has been ongoing for seven years as of last month. Still gathering data. ;)  

  17. // Blogger Dr.Mobi // 3/08/2010

    Hi! How to find original opera-mini 4.3 multi windows and non handler? Please send to me at new link of opera mini 4.3 thanks and happy mode..  

  18. // Blogger WolfHook // 3/08/2010

    I have always liked Opera and it's features but there has always been something holding me back from using it fulltime.

    Even now I can still find odd behaviour when using it on certain websites which baffles me.

    Once Opera 10.50 is released for Mac and Linux, I will consider using it fulltime for a while to see if it can convert me. Until then, it's Google Chrome for me.  

  19. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/08/2010

    http://extendopera.org is your friend too  

  20. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/08/2010

    @Pavels Romanovskis (Павел Романовский):

    zoom shortcut: ctrl+scroll

    zoom text only: http://my.opera.com/nicomen/blog/2007/05/12/zoom-text-only-in-web-pages-with-opera (it's my blog so feel free to leave a comment on that page if you need help or anything...)  

  21. // Blogger Mark Gillespie // 3/08/2010

    I've been using it for a week already, and i'm loving it. I don't see any point going back to Firefox right now, it would seem a downgrade.

    The attractions of Opera are not instantly obvious, you can't run it for an hour and decide it's better or worse, as there is so much cool stuff hidden everywhere you look...  

  22. // Blogger WolvenSpectre // 3/09/2010

    Please be patient with Opera 10.50 right now. Some of us in the Opera Community believe that it isn't ready for Prime Time quite yet and was released early because of the Browser Ballot.

    It usually doesn't have as many issues as it does right now, and is usually a bit better flushed out. Also some of the coolest User Expirience features that have become Opera trademarks are either been pulled or are on the back burner for some reason, and we can't get a response over them.

    I hope you like Opera and decide to tough it out. If you choose to go back, just remember to give Opera a try in a little while when they address some of these issues.  

  23. // Blogger Vladimir // 3/09/2010

    Thank you all for your wonderful feedback :) So far so good. If you have any favorite feature of Opera or anything else to suggest about Opera please comment!
    Thank you again.  

  24. // Anonymous Greg // 3/09/2010

    Indeed, I'm using 10.50 off and on right now, but it's still a bit flaky. It IS beta software after all.  

  25. // Blogger Pavels Romanovskis (Павел Романовский) // 3/09/2010

    Thank you collective wisdom! "You have to choose "Zoom in", and add a parameter to it, so finally it would look like "Zoom in,20". That means +20% zoom by each gesture."

    I was missing ", 20" part of this :)  

  26. // Anonymous sa1 // 3/09/2010

    One thing you would love if you would try it.

    First note how easy it is to add search engines. Just right click on a text field and click "Create Search".
    Now thats quite convenient.

    You will soon realise that you have the liberty to designate any thing as a search engine. From the text field at dictionary.com to the text field at yubnub.org (check the site out if you haven't already), or just the normal search fields at google.com or bing.com , nearly any service that is available on the web is available through text fields can now be added to the search bar very easily.

    Next you would realise how easy it is to access the services added. Because of Opera's HotClick feature you can quickly select a word by double clicking , a sentence by triple clicking, a paragraph by quadruple clicking. Now all those services by selecting Search with in the menu. Thats quie a cool way to keep access to many of your favorite services at your fingertips.

    This is just of the many instinctual things by which Opera makes my web experience better but these features are only discovered after using Opera for a length of time. Even 1 week may not be enough.  

  27. // Anonymous sa1 // 3/09/2010

    As another example note how what I have mentioned above can do what your Google dictionary bookmarklet can do but faster.  

  28. // Blogger zorglub76 // 3/09/2010

    Funny, I've switched to Opera half an hour ago :)
    A month or so ago, I decided to make Chrome my default browser instead of Firefox (actually, Minefield). It annoyed me a lot that getting up and running with FF meant almost half a minute (and I have only a few extensions installed). So I decided to use Chrome, but today I found out that Opera boots even faster.
    I still use Firefox for web development, but I'm starting it now as if I would start Eclipse - "Ok, I have to work now, let's start Firefox"...  

  29. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/09/2010

    Dude,

    I always loved Opera. Also always hated it as could not use it for my daily browsing: delicious bookmark and adblock.

    Man, I am telling you, have you ever met people who get it right and then miss just that one thing that could make it succeed?

    Boy are really, really dumb to lose so many for such a small thing.

    Do that and I dump firefox and chrome in a heartbeat. I loved Opera for years.  

  30. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/09/2010

    @anonymous
    http://www.fanboy.co.nz/adblock/opera/
    and
    http://delicious.com/help/bookmarklets  

  31. // Anonymous George // 3/09/2010

    Don't forget to enable single key shortcuts (Ctrl+F12, Advanced, Shortcuts). This way, you can change tab with "1" and "2", go back with "z" and forward with "x", zoom with "+" & "-"...

    Pressing "/" or "." to search is incredibly fast and convenient.

    Also, check out Opera link. It syncs your bookmarks, created searches, personal bar, notes... Notes are very useful, I use them all the time to take quick notes (a mere F4 click away), and you can also select text from a website and copy it to a note. Later on, double click on that note (the title), and you're back in the original site.

    You closed a tab too soon. No worries, if you're not in a text field, Ctrl+z will get it back. If you need to recover an older tab, just have a look at the bin in the tab bar.

    Opera Unite is wonderful if you happen to find apps that fill a gap for you.

    Finally, the built in mail client is quite good (and very fast). Actually, some people use Opera just for its mail client, even if they don't use it as a browser.


    Enjoy your week ;)  

  32. // Blogger Denis // 3/09/2010

    One extremely happy user here with Opera as primary browser and mail client for several years now. Don't forget to try mail, notes and synchronization features because that are easy to use and very, very useful.  

  33. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/09/2010

    since Mozilla abandoned, and began to push the FFox yo users - I decided to try [color=red]o[/color]pera, cos i hate buggy LEGO browser.
    Plus of monobloc browser like Opera - no need to think how to make it work as should. And no trouble with viruses.
    I'm operafan)) But I do not think it's a good idea to use 10.50. It is awful, cradle of bugs((( Try 10.10!  

  34. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/09/2010

    P.S. I'll watch the results on http://forum.sibnet.ru/index.php?showtopic=559305&st=120  

  35. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/09/2010

    Opera user since 1997. Used Chrome for a couple weeks, until Opera came out with 10.50.

    IMO, it is awesome that Opera finally has a worthy competitor.

    With Chrome and Opera battling for the fastest browser, we can count on that competition keeping the idea of fast browsing as a top factor of any decent browser.  

  36. // Anonymous jquery // 3/09/2010

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  37. // Anonymous Wuk // 3/09/2010

    @WolvenSpectre

    "Please be patient with Opera 10.50 right now. Some of us in the Opera Community believe that it isn't ready for Prime Time quite yet and was released early because of the Browser Ballot."

    People always say that new versions of browsers are released to early. That's nothing to worry about.

    "It usually doesn't have as many issues as it does right now"

    Can't really see a lot of issues, to be honest. Not more than normal in a browser.

    "Also some of the coolest User Expirience features that have become Opera trademarks are either been pulled or are on the back burner for some reason, and we can't get a response over them."

    Pretty vague there. You can easily customize Opera to do whatever it used to if it's different now by default.

    No biggie. And certainly a completely invalid reason for not trying Opera as a new user!

    "If you choose to go back, just remember to give Opera a try in a little while when they address some of these issues."

    I think you are exaggerating. Opera 10.50 is fine.  

  38. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/10/2010

    "I recently discovered Opera Widgets it is something like Adobe AIR but with less RAM consumption."

    Tall Claim ! You can say that if you talk about a lot less features , For me widgets are just a minute subset of AIR , basically what Mozilla Prism , Google Gears and Titanium RIA set out for but each one of them miserably failed.  

  39. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/10/2010

    "Tall Claim ! You can say that if you talk about a lot less features , For me widgets are just a minute subset of AIR , basically what Mozilla Prism , Google Gears and Titanium RIA set out for but each one of them miserably failed."

    What's your position at Adobe?

    Face it, Flash is dying. LOL.  

  40. // Anonymous gaseki // 3/10/2010

    WUK: "I think you are exaggerating. Opera 10.50 is fine."
    If it's fine then why can't I log in to facebook or upload my music to RGhost? Why doesn't it remember my passwords, although password manager is turned on? C'mon, it's not that fine.  

  41. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/10/2010

    My experiment has been running for 9 years now. Still going well. :)  

  42. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/10/2010

    @gaseki

    No problems logging in on Facebook here. Sounds like your installation is broken.  

  43. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/10/2010

    Very happy Opera user albeit 10.5 beta, I've had problems upgrading to the final 10.5 release probably because they wanted it ready for the Microsoft ballot. I don't use widgets or the inbuilt bit torrent client but it's nice to have the option to use them if needed for the rest i think the Opera Browser is awesome. My favorite feature clicking the left of the screen to have the panels fly out.  

  44. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/10/2010

    Thanks George,
    "you can also select text from a website and copy it to a note. Later on, double click on that note (the title), and you're back in the original site."
    I use notes a lot & somehow I'd missed that.  

  45. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/11/2010

    Hello! Can you tell me how i can register mail at google [url=http://google.com]google[/url] http://google.com  

  46. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/11/2010

    I'm using Opera 10.50 without a problem.& I got free USB.This makes more convenient to use as a private browser even in net cafè's.I like Opera Brazil photos.It's very colorful.Opera is cospicuous among other browsers.Well done Opera!!  

  47. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/11/2010

    Good luck with your experiment ! :)

    Before I post this message, I'll save it in the note, just in case something would go bad.
    (select the message, save in note). And if ever I have to post it again, all I have to do is right-click on the form fielnd, and "insert note".
    This is among the things I like in Opera.  

  48. // Blogger Dave // 3/12/2010

    I've had enough memory and freezing issues with Firefox and IE. I'm giving both Chrome and Opera a fresh look. This is the right time to spread the market share around to developers who are following standards and innovating.  

  49. // Anonymous Anonymous // 3/12/2010

    Remember about yesterday updated 10.51!  

  50. // Blogger Gerard // 3/14/2010

    hmm. continue post updates sir :)  

  51. // Blogger PumpkinSeed17 // 3/22/2010

    I could take a risk and try NOT using Opera for a week! Egad! I don't think I could do it! I've learned to depend Daily on Opera Notes and Opera Link (synch) and 1 key shortcuts, the built in Download manager, and since I'm using a netbook, with Windows 7 Release Candidate, every other browser is notably S-L-O-W & unusable.

    I think I'll pass on this challenge :)  

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